How To Save Your US Anime Industry In Three Easy Steps! (A timely industry post)
Yeah, yeah, everyone else and their grandmother, dog and father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate did their smart and insightful post on the industry when Geneon died. But, hey, I feel like writing one now since Anime World Order was just all over these kind of issues a few weeks ago. Talking of AWO, a lot of what I say here may sound similar to what they were on about some weeks ago. A lot of what I say will also sound similar to what you’ve already read on Dave Merrill’s LJ and Subatomic Brainfreeze. Know why? That’s because I have no fucking idea what I’m talking about, so I’m using those guys’ words and others as a basis for my argument. So, basically, chances are you read all this shit before. But whatever, I’m still doing this.
It’s no secret that the US anime industry is a situation similar to that of a snowball hanging out in hell. Geneon recently sank like the Yamato at the end of the Final Yamato, and ADV is currently bleeding from every bodily orifice. So, what can be done? Well, it certainly won’t be an easy thing to recover from, but I’ve come up with a handy three-step-solution that is sure to to work 100%!!! (no.)
Step One: FIGHT THE POWER
What both Japan and the US have got to learn is that, unfortunately, we no longer live in the 1980s. No, not unfortunate because City Hunter is no longer on TV, unfortunate because anime today just lacks the wide-spread appeal that it had back then. You’re no longer selling Yamato, Macross or Go Lion anymore. This isn’t an age when you can sell a show for a high price and expect it to be bought at a high price. Those times are over. See, according to this interview with Shinji Aramaki that I read in OTAKU USA issue I forget, shows used to get produced just because the mecha designs would make for good toys. Even if your show was a massive failure, people would still probably buy the action figure. By virtue of that fact, these shows had to have wide-spread appeal to facilitate them being seen by a wide variety of people so the toys could be bought. Yes, shows now-a-days are still made with the yens in mind, but they appeal to a core group that, for the most part, only exists in Japan. That stuff doesn’t sell here. Japan’s gotta learn that, and America has to stop taking their shit.
I’d hate to think of what kind of ungodly sum ADV paid for that crap-fest that was Magikano. Probably more than they could make back, especially when considering they’re selling that dreck for 30 bucks a pop. No, this has got to end. Japan has to learn the worth of what they’re putting out these days. Most anime that comes out of Japan today has about zero market potential here in the US. US companies need beat that into the Japan’s head as hard as possible. Basically, they have to keep knocking their heads against each other until the one with the thickest skull prevails. Licenses just needs to be sold for cheaper. Once that’s all sorted out, we can move on to the next step…
Step Two: Sell Out
Put more anime on TV. No one’s going to buy a DVD of some show they’ve never seen, especially when the entire show is spread across 6 DVDs at 30 bucks a disc. Putting anime on TV no easy task, though. As I made quite clear in Step One, a lot of what Japan pumps out these days is made for perverts like me, and that shit wont fly with average Joe America… but a lot of other shows may! There’s an entire legion of shows that are perfect for US TV, but for some reason they usually go totally unnoticed. Yes, I’m mostly talking about seinen and jousei anime– Honey and Clover, REC, Hatarake Man and so on. This stuff needs to be acquired and given the royal treatment. What do I mean by that? I mean good dubs– really good dubs. I mean not using the same goddamn actors that they always use. I mean getting people with professional US TV standard acting ability to dub over these shows for TV. A bad dub is insulting to one’s intelligence, and we’ve got to appeal to these people, not insult them.
It is at this point were I’d say something about people being reluctant towards watching cartoons, but it seems lots of people watch things like Family Guy and stuff, so if a cartoon comes along that offers an audience more than just laughs, perhaps they’ll come back for more? Also, having stuff like Death Note on TV is a great start, but you have to put it on a time when people will actually be awake to watch it. (PS put Monster on TV)
After this stuff gets on TV, it needs to be put on DVD. Since companies would’ve presumably done a brilliant job at marketing their shows and dubbing them, everyone will love them, buy the season collections at reasonable prices, and billions will be made! Along with DVDs, they’ll also sell CD soundtracks, singles, t-shirts, wristbands, condoms, etc. With those billions secured, it is possible to move on to step three…
Step Three: Be A Cheap Bastard
Let’s say Steps One and Two were a success. Trillions are made off Honey and Clover. The US loves it. It’s a nationwide phenomenon. Now that US companies can bathe in money, it’s time for them to be true to their inner fan and license the otaku shows. Now, the question is how to sell them. For starters, don’t spend any time or money on a dub and writing over the openings and endings. The people who care about these shows don’t care for any of that stuff. Significantly less time can be spent putting together decent inserts filled with translation notes and reference guides. After all, it’s easier to Google stuff/look at Japanese wiki/mine 2ch/copy fansubs and copypaste that stuff into a DVD insert than it is to hire actors in order to make them try and fail to act moe. Also, sell this stuff at 15 dollars a disc.
I know the guys who watch these kinds of shows. A lot of them will just download them, and not buy them when they come out. These same people own a lot of manga, which is conveniently low-priced. If you can sell to these guys exactly what they want, and at a price that costs a little more than the books they buy often, I think you could probably at least break even on most of these things.
There you have it! Brilliant, is it not? No? Well, yeah, I know. This shit could never happen, but it’s good to have ideas!
Pretty spot on there – I don’t get why Anime companies complain about how their DVD’s wont sell when they price them at $30+/£15+ for 4 eps or so. Considering I can buy a whole season of a non-anime show for the same price, it should be obvious what the problem is.
Unfortunately, the “put more on TV” thing is easier said that done, which is precisely why ADV et al went and overstretched themselves with their own channels. Forgetting all the seinin and jousei stuff for a moment, it’s hard enough to get something male or kid orientated on TV these days – Cartoon Network, for example, apparently flat-out refuses to so much as look at anything which doesn’t have a male lead character (which kind of shafts 90% of anime output these days).
That said, I do think trying to aim shows straight at an older audience is kind of futile – there’s no culture of watching cartoons which aren’t mere funnies in the west. For any of these shows to do well, it’d require a conscious decision on behalf of viewers to watch it over any other live action show they could be watching – the fact that the anime show may well be better and something they’d actually enjoy is a moot point if you can’t actually convince them to watch it. They’ve not even really solved that particular problem in Japan.
But, yeah, I think the lack of accessible anime on regular broadcast TV compared to just a few years ago is a major factor in what’s going on – it’s hard to attract the new, paying kind of fans they need when people have to go out of their way (or pay, or do something illegal) to see the stuff. If anyone can solve that, they’ll get bigger sales, and if they get more sales, we’ll probably start seeing cheaper prices. Unfortunately, it looks like we are going to be going in entirely the other direction with Bandai Visual looking to increase the crazy-priced activities…
Main problem: There are only so much anime fans with a lot of dosh. Others can’t afford it…
I reckon it may be better if they just release more sub-only, since they tend to be much cheaper. Heck, why not sign some Fansubbers on to sub those DVDs?
I dunno, but the R4 anime industry seems to be VERY active. (seen someone down in NZ with nearly 500 R4 DVDS!)
The industry can do that, but what can we as anime fans do?
Steps 2 and 3 are a really good idea. It’s a shame the people who run ADV and the likes don’t have really good ideas. Oh well not like I care, anime is a “watch once and forget” thing for me now.
>>Jams
Well, it’s understandable as to why they do it (trying to break even on the license and dubbing costs) but it still is less than inviting.
>>DiGiKerot
Yeah, the main problem is changing that mindset about cartoons. A friend and I were discussing this earlier, and I said you really had to change things at a cultural level, which is quite difficult. Though, I think if you had some REAL good advertising, you could probably convince a few people, and they’ll tell their friends, and their friends will tell their friends and so on.
>>3x as random
Yeah… I’ve heard you guys get some pretty good stuff down there.
>>IcyStorm
Buy more DVDs, lol
>>Hinano
Well, in the end, Japanese cartoons are mostly just TV shows. While there are a number of shows I’ll watch once and never touch again, there’s a good amount of things each year that I would gladly watch tons of times over.
I have a feeling Madman only licenses stuff that IS GONNA sell.
Like Fate/stay, Tsukuyomi, Eva, Haruhi etc… so basically they license HALF of what the US licenses, and spend less money as they don’t have to hire Dub actors, and base it off sales record in the US…
No wonder its thriving down ere.
“Also, having stuff like Death Note on TV is a great start, but you have to put it on a time when people will actually be awake to watch it.”
It’s hilarious how Cartoon Network buried Bleach at like 10:00 PM, as if it’s some edgy adult show that will traumatize the children.
As for DVD price, when Japan has been paying $70 for 1 episode DVDs, I don’t think they wanna hear that Americans want 5 episodes for $20.
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Hinano’s comment “anime is a “watch once and forget” thing for me now” reflects the common sentiment (that has also been discussed by Animenation’s Ask John) among American fans that they are entitled to anime for free. You’re dealing with kids who don’t have much money and when they can easily get what they want for free, combined with their questionable appreciation of the form (not talking about Hinano), they don’t have any reason to pay. Filesharing will sink the US anime industry, most likely, and it might even beach the Japanese industry like the Yamato.
You should read about the monetary situation of workers in the animation studios of Japan. It’s a wonder anything gets made considering how profits are taken from the studios and how workers are paid ridiculously low wages.
>It’s hilarious how Cartoon Network buried Bleach at like 10:00 PM, as if it’s some edgy adult show that will traumatize the children.
I havn’t watched much of it (20-odd eps of it at least), but from what I can remember, it is pretty violent – more so than Naruto. The kids watching it probably wouldn’t mind, but it would just take one holier-then-thou twat to start screaming “OUR KIDS ARE BEING CORRUPTED!!!!111shift1shift1” and next thing you know the media’s making a sensation about the evils of Japanese cartoons. And that would just be for Bleach – thank God they didn’t release Kodomo No Jikan stateside.
They could just “brain turn on” and see that the majority of fans get anime online now and aren’t terribly interested in DVDs. Fansubs have them beat in terms of releasing much cleaner looking subs, 100x faster, and a lot of it in crisp 720p. And yet I’m expected to basically give a big “fuck you” to these fan subbers and empower American companies to send these people legal threats and force them to drop projects so they can sell their shitty DVDs. Aha, no thanks.
I’ll never buy another anime DVD, but if they were to offer anime available online I’d be more inclined to give them my money. Buy licenses for anime, sub it, encode it, don’t do a shitty job, and make it available for download per episode or season for a reasonable price. Get all the latest and even old classics in one god damn place. I know personally I would have loved this kind of service a number of times looking for older series with torrents that weren’t being seeded and DVD’s only available on ebay for x2 its normal price.
I kind of left out online distribution, mostly because I don’t approve of it. I guess I’m old fashion in that I like to own a physical copy of the show, complete with all the tchotchkes that sometimes come with them.
But yes, some online distribution along side the physical DVD sales would be nice. Kind of like what they’re doing with Death Note
I heard the Lucky Star dub…
I’ve had problems sleeping ever since.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKtNTbFTtgM
(At least I’m thankful they apparently won’t translate the intro song, I guess there is a god)
Actually, done like this would have worked for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9XCy-x0QQ
Yet again fans win the battle.