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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t make me tell you twice: Stop using fanart you didn&#8217;t draw on your anime blog</title>
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		<title>By: Faulheit macht Kunstdiebe &#124; Colour and Concept</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-106967</link>
		<dc:creator>Faulheit macht Kunstdiebe &#124; Colour and Concept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] zu dem Zeitpunkt bis ich diesen Blogpost entdeckt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Conspiracy of Dickbutts &#8211; Attitudes in anime blogging &#171; orz &#8211; I Will Show You Terror in a Handful of Flans</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-96092</link>
		<dc:creator>A Conspiracy of Dickbutts &#8211; Attitudes in anime blogging &#171; orz &#8211; I Will Show You Terror in a Handful of Flans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4 wah going nuts on Japanese fanarts. Read here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-94896</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ippikineko said:
&quot;If you don’t list a source or even request a source so that it can be properly listed, that to me implies that it is art created by the poster,&quot;

Really?

For me, unless a post actually says &quot;I made this&quot; in some way or other, I assume that they didn&#039;t make it. (Unless it&#039;s the journal of an individual artist. Which actually would account for all the journals I follow with any regularity that have art posted in them. Huh. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ippikineko said:<br />
&#8220;If you don’t list a source or even request a source so that it can be properly listed, that to me implies that it is art created by the poster,&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>For me, unless a post actually says &#8220;I made this&#8221; in some way or other, I assume that they didn&#8217;t make it. (Unless it&#8217;s the journal of an individual artist. Which actually would account for all the journals I follow with any regularity that have art posted in them. Huh. )</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-91804</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wah writ:
&lt;i&gt;My point isn’t about legality. I break the law all the time. I just did right now when I downloaded this Shin Mazinger episode. I keep stressing (people clearly can’t read) that’s it’s about R E S P E C T.&lt;/i&gt;

While I do understand where it comes from, I suppose I should also play devils advocate and point out copyright also protects from the making of derivative works. IE: Fanart. Just because the odds of getting sued over it is almost unheard of doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s strictly against the law - especially if it&#039;s being sold.  Do japanese doujin artists over there get permission to draw all the XXX stuff they sell at comiket etc, or are their laws just far more relaxed compared to ours.  If they aren&#039;t paying proper respect to the original creators, why are they expecting special treatment?

Remember, devil&#039;s advocate reply here.  Yes, I know there&#039;s a difference between drawing something new (Even if it&#039;s of copyrighted characters) and just using an image you found on the web, but when money starts to get involved it actually starts to cross into criminal territory in most countries that use copyright laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wah writ:<br />
<i>My point isn’t about legality. I break the law all the time. I just did right now when I downloaded this Shin Mazinger episode. I keep stressing (people clearly can’t read) that’s it’s about R E S P E C T.</i></p>
<p>While I do understand where it comes from, I suppose I should also play devils advocate and point out copyright also protects from the making of derivative works. IE: Fanart. Just because the odds of getting sued over it is almost unheard of doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s strictly against the law &#8211; especially if it&#8217;s being sold.  Do japanese doujin artists over there get permission to draw all the XXX stuff they sell at comiket etc, or are their laws just far more relaxed compared to ours.  If they aren&#8217;t paying proper respect to the original creators, why are they expecting special treatment?</p>
<p>Remember, devil&#8217;s advocate reply here.  Yes, I know there&#8217;s a difference between drawing something new (Even if it&#8217;s of copyrighted characters) and just using an image you found on the web, but when money starts to get involved it actually starts to cross into criminal territory in most countries that use copyright laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Fanart accreditation &#171; Blue Blue Wave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fanart accreditation &#171; Blue Blue Wave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog posts about this topic which you may find interesting to read, like those by Fangzhao, Hinano, Wah, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ippikineko</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-90537</link>
		<dc:creator>Ippikineko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never heard of most of the stuff mentioned here, but then again, I&#039;m not a blogger of any sort. That said, I&#039;m not an artist either, so I can&#039;t say I really understand how the people who are upset about this feel.

Still, to me, it seems both common courtesy and common sense to at least attribute the works to their creators if at all possible. This has nothing to do with whether Japanese fans or American fans or fans of any other country are better or worse than each other. If you don&#039;t list a source or even request a source so that it can be properly listed, that to me implies that it is art created by the poster, unless I actually know the source already. Plus, it would help people who like the picture an easier time finding more pictures by the same artist. Which makes it win/win (if a little more work for the blogger) as far as I can see.

Personally, after reading through all this, as well as the website WAH linked to, which is much less antagonistic in its approach, I think it would be better to at least try and respect the artists wishes, instead of deciding to make a war out of it.

With that said, I have a question. How does this relate to saving pictures for ease of viewing offline? Especially since as mentioned before, most image sites are horribly sloppy when it comes to listing the artists? I have lots of pictures saved for convenience sake, most of which I have no source info what so ever. Should I research and tag them myself, even if I&#039;m not going to ever repost them online? What would be the best way to try and do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never heard of most of the stuff mentioned here, but then again, I&#8217;m not a blogger of any sort. That said, I&#8217;m not an artist either, so I can&#8217;t say I really understand how the people who are upset about this feel.</p>
<p>Still, to me, it seems both common courtesy and common sense to at least attribute the works to their creators if at all possible. This has nothing to do with whether Japanese fans or American fans or fans of any other country are better or worse than each other. If you don&#8217;t list a source or even request a source so that it can be properly listed, that to me implies that it is art created by the poster, unless I actually know the source already. Plus, it would help people who like the picture an easier time finding more pictures by the same artist. Which makes it win/win (if a little more work for the blogger) as far as I can see.</p>
<p>Personally, after reading through all this, as well as the website WAH linked to, which is much less antagonistic in its approach, I think it would be better to at least try and respect the artists wishes, instead of deciding to make a war out of it.</p>
<p>With that said, I have a question. How does this relate to saving pictures for ease of viewing offline? Especially since as mentioned before, most image sites are horribly sloppy when it comes to listing the artists? I have lots of pictures saved for convenience sake, most of which I have no source info what so ever. Should I research and tag them myself, even if I&#8217;m not going to ever repost them online? What would be the best way to try and do that?</p>
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		<title>By: HechEff</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89960</link>
		<dc:creator>HechEff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, WAH.

Saving them for your own viewing pleasure is one thing, but using them as if it was their own content is just something else. Or worse, edited without consent in such a way it becomes exploited for the worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, WAH.</p>
<p>Saving them for your own viewing pleasure is one thing, but using them as if it was their own content is just something else. Or worse, edited without consent in such a way it becomes exploited for the worse.</p>
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		<title>By: The Melancholy of Wildarmsheero &#171; The Moritheil Review</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89645</link>
		<dc:creator>The Melancholy of Wildarmsheero &#171; The Moritheil Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Melancholy of&#160;Wildarmsheero  Wah told you once, he told you twice: his boyfriend&#8217;s back and now you&#8217;re gonna be in trouble. Hey lie, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Image Usage Uproar And My Thousand Words &#124; Furu Anime Panikku</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89426</link>
		<dc:creator>The Image Usage Uproar And My Thousand Words &#124; Furu Anime Panikku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I want to blog about Evangelion, I&#8217;d like to use some nice images of Rei in the post. But WAH insists that I can&#8217;t use fanart or whatever without crediting. But it&#8217;s such work to go through all that trouble for a single [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I want to blog about Evangelion, I&#8217;d like to use some nice images of Rei in the post. But WAH insists that I can&#8217;t use fanart or whatever without crediting. But it&#8217;s such work to go through all that trouble for a single [...]</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89382</link>
		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amused at all the discussion of this.  Internets: SRS BSNS!

I&#039;ll have some metabloggery at the usual side blog in response to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amused at all the discussion of this.  Internets: SRS BSNS!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have some metabloggery at the usual side blog in response to this.</p>
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		<title>By: Necessary Fan-Art Post &#171; Eye Sedso</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89334</link>
		<dc:creator>Necessary Fan-Art Post &#171; Eye Sedso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mistakes of Youth [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hello World » Fanarts.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello World » Fanarts.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now, I happen to see a lot of discussion from spicy to dull regarding the use of fanarts. Here, here, here, here and etcetara. There has been a lot of discussion lately that I&#8217;ve been meaning to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now, I happen to see a lot of discussion from spicy to dull regarding the use of fanarts. Here, here, here, here and etcetara. There has been a lot of discussion lately that I&#8217;ve been meaning to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Opinion Prone :: Commentary Editorial :: Fanart, Attribution, and Usage</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89106</link>
		<dc:creator>Opinion Prone :: Commentary Editorial :: Fanart, Attribution, and Usage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a topic I&#8217;ve intended to write about for a while, but I never imagined that it might cause such [...]</description>
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		<title>By: thebign</title>
		<link>http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/08/04/dont-make-me-tell-you-twice-stop-using-fanart-you-didnt-draw-on-your-anime-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-89084</link>
		<dc:creator>thebign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to be mad surprised if this isn&#039;t one of your all-time viewed posts. :V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to be mad surprised if this isn&#8217;t one of your all-time viewed posts. :V</p>
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		<title>By: Artists and Non - aloe, dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artists and Non - aloe, dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was an explosion on fanart usage, so I&#8217;m adding fuel to the fire. For the record, I passed up wildarmshero&#8217;s post, and pretty much every other related post. There was simple generation of interest, [...]</description>
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