Comments on: Lolitas in anime: Then and Now http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:53:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Aerowmerm http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-49883 Aerowmerm Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:43:58 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-49883 неплохая мысль +1 неплохая мысль +1

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]]> By: wildarmsheero http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16512 wildarmsheero Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:04:31 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16512 The web broadcast starts on the 19th, which may or may not be less edited. The DVDs will be completely unedited. The web broadcast starts on the 19th, which may or may not be less edited. The DVDs will be completely unedited.

]]> By: MephistophelesReborn http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16511 MephistophelesReborn Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:44:27 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16511 But, going back to Kojika: Since the editing seems to be put upon the animation, does that mean that there is an uncensored version? If so, will it get on the internet? If so, when? But, going back to Kojika:
Since the editing seems to be put upon the animation, does that mean that there is an uncensored version?

If so, will it get on the internet?

If so, when?

]]> By: wildarmsheero http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16483 wildarmsheero Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:58:35 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16483 http://tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=55691 here it is Not sure how well seeded it is... But yeah, CCS most definitely had a great effect. Sakura-tan is just too cute... http://tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=55691 here it is

Not sure how well seeded it is…

But yeah, CCS most definitely had a great effect. Sakura-tan is just too cute…

]]> By: tomoyo http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16471 tomoyo Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:50:54 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16471 Gladly! Of course, I think CCS had its own share of influence later in its day too...! XD Certainly was apparent when I went to Wonderfestival shortly after its run, and I can't think of how many seinen manga and anime I've seen that were clearly influenced... Thanks for the tip on the Tokimeki Tonight anime, I'll have to clear some disk space and hunt that down now... Gladly! Of course, I think CCS had its own share of influence later in its day too…! XD Certainly was apparent when I went to Wonderfestival shortly after its run, and I can’t think of how many seinen manga and anime I’ve seen that were clearly influenced…

Thanks for the tip on the Tokimeki Tonight anime, I’ll have to clear some disk space and hunt that down now…

]]> By: wildarmsheero http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16467 wildarmsheero Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:38:53 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16467 "I tend to argue that much of moe as a “movement” comes from shoujo influences during that period" Yes, I've noticed that too. A lot of the shoujo heroines of yesteryear could very well be a moe girl of today. Thanks for the insight! Also, you can download the Tokimeki Tonight anime raw. Some group put out a batch. I downloaded it, but will wait until my comprehension is a bit better before I try and watch it. “I tend to argue that much of moe as a “movement” comes from shoujo influences during that period”
Yes, I’ve noticed that too. A lot of the shoujo heroines of yesteryear could very well be a moe girl of today. Thanks for the insight!

Also, you can download the Tokimeki Tonight anime raw. Some group put out a batch. I downloaded it, but will wait until my comprehension is a bit better before I try and watch it.

]]> By: tomoyo http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16380 tomoyo Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:28:21 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16380 Yeah, lolita and moe stuff's been in anime and manga since even before Cagliostro. When I was in Japan, a fellow otaku showed me their collection of manga by artists dating back to the mid-70's at least, maybe further back, that were known for helping propogate the whole thing (some of whom were never reprinted due to the controversy over their work...wish I could remember their names). Mahou shoujo stuff, while aimed at girls, still often had vouyerism in them aimed at panty shots and bath scenes, helping secure a small loyal loli-ota crowd, especially in the early and mid 80's. Creamy Mami and Magical Emi come to mind in particular. The whole moe thing, while not named that, was definitely in full swing with stuff like Urusei Yatsura (Megane was often portrayed in the later series and movies as a clear full-on otaku, for that matter), Macross (Minmay was deliberately modeled after shoujo idol-type characters, not to mention Sammy the loli bridge bunny) and the star of proto-Gainax's Daicon III was a loli, and there's all kinds of others to be found. I tend to argue that much of moe as a "movement" comes from shoujo influences during that period on shounen series and male otaku. Also let's not forget Cream Lemon coming out in 1985, which was the first commercial anime pron OVA series, featuring lolis, incest, yuri, tentacles, and even animation by Anno (in Pop Chaser), Hirano Toshiki, Moriyama Yuji, and other animation greats. I've actually read the manga for part of Tokimeki Tonight, but not seen the anime. The manga is multi-generational, with different arcs focusing on different characters, but the first arc, which the anime ed. comes from, is the best, and is a lot of good fun with high school girl from a vampire family with the ability to swap bodies with whatever she bites (from people to animals to inanimate objects)--hijinks and teen angst comedy ensue. XD I'm sure the anime must have been fun too. Yeah, lolita and moe stuff’s been in anime and manga since even before Cagliostro. When I was in Japan, a fellow otaku showed me their collection of manga by artists dating back to the mid-70’s at least, maybe further back, that were known for helping propogate the whole thing (some of whom were never reprinted due to the controversy over their work…wish I could remember their names). Mahou shoujo stuff, while aimed at girls, still often had vouyerism in them aimed at panty shots and bath scenes, helping secure a small loyal loli-ota crowd, especially in the early and mid 80’s. Creamy Mami and Magical Emi come to mind in particular. The whole moe thing, while not named that, was definitely in full swing with stuff like Urusei Yatsura (Megane was often portrayed in the later series and movies as a clear full-on otaku, for that matter), Macross (Minmay was deliberately modeled after shoujo idol-type characters, not to mention Sammy the loli bridge bunny) and the star of proto-Gainax’s Daicon III was a loli, and there’s all kinds of others to be found. I tend to argue that much of moe as a “movement” comes from shoujo influences during that period on shounen series and male otaku. Also let’s not forget Cream Lemon coming out in 1985, which was the first commercial anime pron OVA series, featuring lolis, incest, yuri, tentacles, and even animation by Anno (in Pop Chaser), Hirano Toshiki, Moriyama Yuji, and other animation greats.

I’ve actually read the manga for part of Tokimeki Tonight, but not seen the anime. The manga is multi-generational, with different arcs focusing on different characters, but the first arc, which the anime ed. comes from, is the best, and is a lot of good fun with high school girl from a vampire family with the ability to swap bodies with whatever she bites (from people to animals to inanimate objects)–hijinks and teen angst comedy ensue. XD I’m sure the anime must have been fun too.

]]> By: as http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16246 as Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:55:54 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16246 well, japan is for babby http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200705/group-suicide/3 i should probably go write something about knj and the internet complaining how people are upset that "it has little girls in it" but then i'd have to watch it well, japan is for babby

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200705/group-suicide/3

i should probably go write something about knj and the internet complaining how people are upset that “it has little girls in it” but then i’d have to watch it

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16245 Anonymous Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:40:09 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16245 Companies learned that kneading tits/DFC make more money so this lead us to the saturation of this products in animated media today and the "unwanted attention" we're getting because of it. tl;dr, I blame it on the moé. Companies learned that kneading tits/DFC make more money so this lead us to the saturation of this products in animated media today and the “unwanted attention” we’re getting because of it. tl;dr, I blame it on the moé.

]]> By: manga http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16240 manga Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:34:22 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16240 just a quick note. We´ve had this in videogames where evertyhing was videogame related, now it seems the turn has come to anime/manga... Give it a couple of months and it´s gone. Back to normal. I don´t understand, it´s been showing for years and noone has bothered to even complain, now just all of a sudden it´s terrible that anime has younger girls in it? Media and "five fucking minutes of fame" are wonderful at ruining stuff and giving things a bad image :( And the laws in different countries aren´t making it easier either... When will people learn that anime isn´t real? Get it into everyone´s heads. just a quick note. We´ve had this in videogames where evertyhing was videogame related, now it seems the turn has come to anime/manga…
Give it a couple of months and it´s gone. Back to normal.

I don´t understand, it´s been showing for years and noone has bothered to even complain, now just all of a sudden it´s terrible that anime has younger girls in it?
Media and “five fucking minutes of fame” are wonderful at ruining stuff and giving things a bad image :(

And the laws in different countries aren´t making it easier either…

When will people learn that anime isn´t real? Get it into everyone´s heads.

]]> By: MephistophelesSanctified http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16238 MephistophelesSanctified Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:03:23 +0000 http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2007/10/11/lolitas-in-anime-then-and-now/#comment-16238 The beginning of the end is at hand. The beginning of the end is at hand.

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